Time to refinance? How low can mortgage rates go? Reuters Blogs (blog)
Mark Sass and his wife Jan decided to refinance the mortgage on their Cincinnati, Ohio, home on Friday, just days before the Federal Reserve pledged to keep rates near historic lows through the first half of 2013.
“I knew the Fed statement was coming out and rates had dropped to historically low levels, and it just seemed like an opportune time. I hadn’t even thought about it until then,” says Sass, who owns his own marketing research company.
Their original mortgage had a 20-year amortization period — at a 4.875 percent rate — with 12 years remaining. They are rolling it over into a 10-year mortgage with a 3.5 percent rate. “I was able to knock a couple of years off the term with a very modest increase in the monthly payment,” Sass says. “It seemed like a no-brainer to me.”
Sass and his wife are both 55, so retirement is on the horizon. “The opportunity to look 10 years out and know that – unless things change – we won’t have a mortgage when we retire looked like a smart decision,” Sass says, adding the overall savings on interest by reducing his term will be in the neighborhood of $20,000.
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Which bank offers the lowest interest rate for mortgage refinance in California?
I need to refinance my second/investment home in Milpitas California and I'm looking for a mortgage broker or a bank that offers lowest interest rate based on 700 or more fico score. Preferably a loan program with minimum monthly payment is preferred.
find the best rate you can find and then add 1% (1 point is what is the standard to add when dealing with an investment home)
A mortgage broker is supposed to find you the best rate from all the companies she works with. If you don't have a good one shop around.
Here is a website to find the average and best rates:
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/default.asp
How long do you have to own your house before you can refinance at a lower rate?
I bought my house in July 2008 in San Bernardino County in California with a rate of 6.25%. I heard rates are dropping into the 4% area. How long do you need to own a home before you can refinance for a lower rate? I have an FHA loan and a neighbor told me that if I call FHA they can simply just switch the rate for me, but that definitely doesn't sound right.
It depends on what your mortgage states. I also have an FHA loan. It states that I cannot refi or sell for 9 years unless I repay the $5000 they gave me for closing costs. Read through your loan info and see what you can find out. It may be easier to just call your loan officer. They should be able to help you out.
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I was tricked and lied to by a loan officer and his company in California, where can I file a complaint?
I worked with a loan officer from a mortgage/loan company in California to refinance my house, I was presented with a good faith estimate that showed a low interest rate with no prepayment penalties, and at closing the interest rate was higher with prepayment penalties. I called the loan officer who said to go ahead and sign the documents because he will fix the problem. I was on a deadline to close so I had to sign, and after I signed the loan officer and his company stopped answering my phone calls. I made a complaint with the BBB but nothing got resolved, is there anybody else I can make a complaint with that will persuade this company to remove the prepayment penalties? Please let me know. Thanks
You ran through two red lights at the doc signing and after.
You should never sign anything that is not what you were promised. You should have known that once a contract is signed it can not be changed unless both parties agree and the lender was not going to agree and the loan officer did not represent the lender because he does not work for the lender.
Then in California as well as other states you have a three day right of recission. That mean that even after you sign the loan docs you have 3 days (72 hours) and you can still cancel the loan for no reason what so ever. This had to be pointed out to you because most lenders have it in 14pt print and you were given a copy by who ever was your doc signer.
All you had to do was sign the cancellation documents given you and you could have faxed them to four different places. One to the closing escrow officer, the title company, the lender and the mortgage broker that negotiated the loan for you.
A good faith estimate does not tell you about pre-payment penalities.
You may complain, when you filled out the application you were given several documents. One has a address and telephone number where you can call and make a complaint.
CAMB is not that place because you don't have to be a member of CAMB and if your mortgage broker is not a member there is really nothng CAMB can do.
There are 2 different license in California that can do home mortgages. One is a Department of Real Estate ran by the Department of Real Estate, and the other is a California Finance Lenders license and is governed by the California Department of Corporation.
So if you know which license your mortgage broker is a member then you can make a complaint with them.
The complaint will be an after thought because now the mortgage broker is no longer in the picture and no matter who you complain to the fact that you signed the loan docs make it a legal contract.
All loans have pre-payment penalties that apply when you refinance your house. If you sell your property most pre-pays don't apply as they are called soft pre-pays. You will probably not refinance in the next 3-4 years when the prepay will no longer matter.
Now about the interest rate. This is a tax deductable item. No matter how high or low the interest rate is it is tax deductable. So you will get that back. Check with your tax preparer for all tax advise.
I hope this has been of some use to you, good luck.
"FIGHT ON"
http://www.ss.ca.gov/business/business.htm - If the company is in a different name or you want to verify the address.
Hope these help
For loan advice. Is fix or adjust. rate better for me?
My loan penalty will be over in Feb.2008, from fix at 10% for $5292 a month, after that it will be adjustiable rate. I can't refinance for lower rate because of self employed and low credit score. wonder if adjust. will be ok for me? how does adjust. work? We are in Contra Costa, california.
Adjustable rates are fine when interest rates are low like they are not. In fact borrowing money is a gift because with 10 percent or higher inflation the interest doesn't even cover inflation.
However, this will not last. Lenders are going to start demanding rates to cover inflation plus 5 to ten percent. So when interest rates for short term loans goes to 21 percent like they did in the eighties, you are going to like your fixed rate.
people are losing their shirts to adjustable rates.
An ARM consists of 2 components, a margin and an index. The Margin is a constant. The index adjusts monthly. There are a number of different indicies. On your conversion from fixed to ARM your lender will add the margin to the current index and then round to the nearest 1/8th. Then they will apply the annual cap to ensure you don't exceed the annual allowable percetage.
Call your loan officer (who helped you get into this pickle in the first place) and have him/her compute what the rate would be if you adjusted today. Tha'll give you some kind of idea. If you can't find them or if they can't help you, pull out your loan documents and email me. I'll try to figure it out for you.
I'm so sorry you ended up in this situation.
I would suggest that you get an adjustable rate mortgage, but not for the 2 or 3 years that normally offered but try to get the ARM at around 5 to 7 years, this way your credit has a chance to get repaired so not to have to go through this again.
OR
depending on how much the home has increased in value you may be able to get a fixed, because if the appraised value is high enough and the LTV (loan to value) percentage is low enough you could very well get a good enough rate to justifiy getting a fixed mortgage.
If you go for the fixed you also can pay some extra money, usually a percentage point of the loan amount to reduce the rate of the mortgage as well. So look into all your options and make a choice based on what you think is best for you.
Good luck
I would be more than happy to help you answer this question. I am a mortgage planner with over 10 years experience helping my clients select the correct program. I believe each client has short and long term financial plans that must be incorporated with your mortgage. Many clients do not understand that your house is an investment and as such financing should be taken seriously into account by a trained professional. A loan officer will just shop around and get you a rate but a mortgage planner will listen to your goals and incorporate them into suggesting the best possible solution. I compare it to buying a Geo Metro vs Mercedes Benz. In the sake of your home and families future who would you like to give you advice?
If you have any questions let me know
They use a 3/1/6 percent adjustment. That means your initial adjustment could (or in this market, will) be 3%. After that, it adjusts 1% every year, with a 6% lifetime adjustment cap. So if you were at 7% for the initial "fixed" period of two years, year three could be 10%, year four could be 11%, five could be 12%, and year six would lock your rate at 13% for the remainder of your loan.
Again, I want to be very clear here: that's standard, but your loan may be different.
You still have options. Even as a self-employed borrower you may be able to use 12 or 24 months of bank statements to prove income and qualify for a "full doc" rate. There are still some great programs in the market, and in your case a good, trustworthy broker may be your best bet. Most true banks are reall tightening down mortgage options for SE people. You need a broker to get your whole story (including history and future goals) and help you make the best educated decision. I've had to tell some of my own SE clients that even though their mortgage starts adjusting soon, it might not be the best time to refi. My duty to them is to get the best current info I can and help construct a long-term plan that benefits their situation and goals.
If you don't have a relationship with a broker right now (or a relationship you feel comfortable with, I should say) meet with a few. Just remember that YOU are interviewing THEM and if you don't feel good about the information you are getting, there are plenty of brokers around who are willing to really help you out.
Good luck!
they have a lot of programs that will probably work for you. Bill in Austin
What's better? Low rates, or low taxes?
Prices here in California are still WAY high, but I keep hearing "you should buy, because rates are so low, and they're going to go up".
I'm not so sure that's a good strategy, because of all the extra $$ I'll pay in taxes on an expensive house, but please correct me if I'm wrong.
For the sake of argument, assume three things are true:
1. Rates WILL go up
2. Prices WILL go down, (and rates will be higher when they do).
(- Also, here in California your taxes are locked in when you buy).
3. All other factors being the same... in other words, obviously I don't NEED the house immediately, etc., etc.
The question is strictly in relation to profit as an investment.
When housing prices go low, even if I'm paying a higher interest rate, my taxes will be lower (because of the lower purchase price).
I can always refinance later, when interest rates are low, but high taxes are forever.
My taxes won't go down later, but the interest rate will go down (someday).
taxes! High rates me high returns.
I love it when someone comes on here who obviously is putting
more thought into their finances than "how much down do I need with really bad credit".
So many Californians sold their homes and moved up because rates were sooooo good. But lets keep in mind a loan is for 30 years. Taxes are truly forever.
I have a couple of GOLDEN properties.
They are GOLDEN because they were inherited or purchased at depressed prices. The tax rate on one of my 3 bedroom 2 bath homes is literally less than $50 bucks per month!
I will never sell it!!!!! It was bought in late 60's (thanks Granny! God Bless her soul!)
With taxes based on purchase price, buying a house that is depressed for some reason is smart (like a fixer).
When you have to consider retirement income you also have to consider monthly tax commitment on a home. 15 yrs before you retire is not usually the best time to buy a home.
Waiting til you're ready to retire then building your dream home means dream home is assessed when complete at current market tax rate. Hmmmm Budget buster??
I dont have a crystal ball. Buy right....it can be done even in Ca.
Thanks for posting! Your on it!!
How do I overcome lowball bank appraisals to refinance my home? Can I contest an appraisal? Other options?
I purchased my 1950's California home in 2005 for $450k and subsequently sunk $175k into substantial improvements, making the total investment about $625k.
I currently owe $340k on this home and have no other debt.
I was attempting to refinance at a new, low rate, and get some cash out for my business. Yesterday I received a crushing appraisal from one of the bank's selected appraisers. The guy came back with $312k--less than 50% of my investment.
I personally took this appraiser through my home, pointing out all the improvements that had been made and where all the money was spent. I even gave him a breakdown of everything on paper that he took with him. I offered to provide him with before pictures but he wasn't interested.
He admitted in his report that he could not find any recent comparable sales in the area and had to go quite a distance out, into neighborhoods that I would not consider equal. He seems to have based his appraisal purely on the last known sale price of homes of similar age and size, and completely disregarded the $175k in improvements that I'd made to my home.
Obviously, judging a home's value by a recent sale price is flawed. We don't know what the circumstances and conditions of that sale were. Foreclosure, short sale? Judging a home's value by its age and dimensions is equally flawed as we don't know whether that home has been updated in the last 50 years, whether it's completely rotting inside or what.
His report also states that homes in the area have fallen 15-30% since 2005. Now, I would expect a super conservative appraisal to value my home at 70% of my purchase price and improvements at 80% of cost, putting the number closer to $455k. That would have put me at 25/75 LTV, and at least given me a chance to refinance.
Is it worth seeking other financial institutions, and pay another $400 for each additional appraisal? Do you expect my experience will be the same with all appraisers at this time? I've read that banks are encouraging appraisers to return values that represent an amount where at it would be impossible for a bank to lose money on the property in a foreclosure... roughly 60% of actual value.
Is it worth attempting to find independent appraisers and contest the bank's appraisal? Is there anything I can do to force a bank appraiser to value my improvements, or just value my home higher in general?
Do I have any other options? I'd really like to refinance while rates are amazing, and I'd love to get cash out or as part of a HELOC for my business.
Rhetorical question/rant: why would people want to avoid foreclosure when their homes are being appraised at 50% of value? How many years does it take to get a foreclosure off your record? How many years will it take you to earn that $300k that your home just lost in value?
You can not force the appraiser to value the improvements, they are NEVER part of the appraisal. The only thing you can do is try to force a change in the listed condition. If it went from from "poor" to "good" you appraise higher.
You can not force the bank to use any other appraiser then the one they have hired. It is their money.
As for your rhetorical question, it is because they borrowed MONEY. Cash money. Refusing to repay it does not make it a gift. They still owe a huge chunk after a foreclosure.
If you are unhappy with this bank you can try another, but your appraisal should not vary by much. They all use the same criteria.
The main value in a home is it's exact location. The improvements do matter but often they do not matter very much. It could be that they may not add anything to your value but it is more common that they add maybe 50% to 60% of the cost involved.
If there are no sales close by then the appraiser had to make some huge judgment calls. He should be able to determine the details of each sale and should be able to tell you what he found, but you will not likely change his mind about the value.
If you paid for a second appraiser the value would be different. I bet the more experienced appraisers would do a better job in finding good comparables and in making those necessary judgment calls.
Banks want to make loans, that is the way they make money. They may be very scared to do cash out loans though and that may be why the bank is not helping you argue your case.
2. You hit the nail on the head with your rant. Any homeowner who is bending over backwards to avoid foreclosure when the mortgage is 50% underwater is a complete idiot. This is particularly true in places like California, where most every homeowner has the option of walking away with no further financial liability other than what has already been paid towards the mortgage. Of course, there are not a hell of a lot of true "idiots" in this world. The result is that all of these save-the-homeowner programs that local politicians are pushing are falling on deaf ears, because only a true idiot, which are few and far between, would continue making full price payments for something that has already lost half its value.
There are different ways to appraise a home. One is comps, which doesn't seem to lend itself to you situation. Another is cost. This is how he should have appraised your home. Lets say you home is 1,000 square feet, it costs a $100 a square feet to build in that area for that type of home. If your home was new it would appraise for $100,000 plus the land. Your upgrades could come into play, so could the appeal of the home but all of that is subjective. Now that we have determined a price they have to figure in the age of the home, the condition of the home and the CURRENT MARKET, CURRENT MARKET which if it is bad will BRING DOWN THE VALUE of the home. Just because you put $$$$$$ into the home doesn't automatically increase the value.
Costs and value are different. The only time you can actually count on $ and effort being put into a home and making an actual profit is cleaning and paint. Elbow grease (20 bucks worth of cleaner) and a couple gallons of paint (100 bucks worth of paint) go a L O N G way in any market.
All real estate is local, and I can't speak for your area. But let me try to address some of your points, at least in general.
You say: "He seems to have based his appraisal purely on the last known sale price of homes of similar age and size, and completely disregarded the $175k in improvements that I'd made to my home."
ANSWER: Yes. Appraisers base an appraisal on recent home sales of "comparable" homes, generally described as homes in the same community or nearby, similar size, and when possible similar age. That's what they do.
Regarding your $175,000 in improvements, you didn't describe what they were. If they involved, let's say, adding living space (a room, a bath, bumping out the kitchen, etc.), then that should be reflected in the appraisal. However, if the improvements involved replacing laminate countertops with granite, replacing the vinyl entryway flooring with marble, etc., That adds comparatively little value from an appraisal standpoint.
You say: "Obviously, judging a home's value by a recent sale price is flawed. We don't know what the circumstances and conditions of that sale were. Foreclosure, short sale? Judging a home's value by its age and dimensions is equally flawed as we don't know whether that home has been updated in the last 50 years, whether it's completely rotting inside or what."
ANSWER: There's some debate about whether the conditions of the sale should matter. Many appraisers--and I agree with them--say it shouldn't matter. Look at it this way: A community has 10 homes for sale. Five are foreclosures or short sales, priced around $325,000. The other five aren't distress situations, and they're priced around $650,000. A buyer is interested in purchasing a home in the community. Which ones is the buyer going to look at? And which one is the buyer likely to purchase? The cheaper homes. And if those cheaper homes are comparable to the higher-priced ones (size, age, condition), then the cheaper homes will dictate the appraisers analysis.
You say: "His report also states that homes in the area have fallen 15-30% since 2005. Now, I would expect a super conservative appraisal to value my home at 70% of my purchase price and improvements at 80% of cost, putting the number closer to $455k."
ANSWER: The appraiser would know how much home values have fallen. 15%-30% is a broad range, but it's not a suprising range. I can show you areas about 25 miles from Washington, D.C. (a comparatively stable area financially) where prices have fallen by 70%. (Manassas, Woodbridge, some areas of Reston.) Even closer in, about 10 miles outside of Washington, I can show you areas where prices have fallen by 40% (areas of Falls Church and Fairfax).
Again, prices are extremely locally-based. But my point is that it doesn't surprise me to hear an appraiser say that prices have fallen by 30% since the peak of the real estate market.
As for the value of your improvements, as I noted, if it involved adding square footage of livable space to your home, then it'll return some value. If it involved upgrading what was already there, it'll return far less. Most of the figures I see (and this applies to value for resale) are in the 40%-60% return range. Sometimes it's higher--adding a second bathroom to a home that only has one, for instance. But that's unusual.
You write: "I've read that banks are encouraging appraisers to return values that represent an amount where at it would be impossible for a bank to lose money on the property in a foreclosure... roughly 60% of actual value."
ANSWER: Yes and no. Yes: Banks are encouraging appaisers to return very conservative values. Absolutely. But, as another answer points out, that still should be 100% of value. What you may have read may have said that banks will lend only 60% of the appraised value. That's the way they'd protect themselves in the event of a foreclosure.
Like I said, the appraisal you had might have been too conservative. But it's probably not off as much as you think.
What you might do is ask a good Realtor to do a CMA on your property. Now, that's not the same as an appraisal. But that'll give you another perspective and another number. And the CMA will be free.
Hope that helps.
All appraisals are for market value (what a typical buyer would pay). All appraisals must be supported by market data, facts and stand up in a court of law. Your option has no bearing on the appraisal. What you paid has no bearing on the appraisal. 2005 when you bought was the height of the market. Homes are not being appraised for 50% of value, homes are being appraised for current market value and because you owe more than it market value is not the appraisers fault.
Appraisers are required for follow USPAP mandated by federal law. Appraisers also have to follow lender guide lines like, 2 comparables must have sold within 90 days , no comparables may be used that have sold prior to 6 months, all comparables must be within one mile of the subject. Comparables should bracket the subject in square footage (some larger and some smaller). Line adjustments can not exceed 10% of the comparables sales price. Net and gross adjustments should not exceed 15%, the list goes on and on.
Not sure where you are coming up with return of 80% on improvements? My neighbor put a $30K roof on her house and I put a $8,000 roof on, both roofs added zero value to our homes, it maintenance that has to be done to keep your home at current value. I have a 50' x 20' deck with a hot tub, cost around $20K on an appraisal the return is around 5K.
Quote: I've read that banks are encouraging appraisers to return values that represent an amount where at it would be impossible for a bank to lose money on the property in a foreclosure... roughly 60% of actual value.
Fact Banks can not encourage an in anyway to increase the value or decrease the value (this is federal law) and a appraiser could lose his license and do jail time for doing it. This would be called a missleading report and I have NEVER and I mean NEVER heard of a lender telling the appraiser to under appraiser a home. That makes no since. The lender wants to make loans, and they make no money if they don't. They just dont want to loan more money than the home is worth.
Fact: The appraiser could care less what you think your home is worth and that not his job. His job is to appraise your home for market value.
Fact: Most homeowner think their home is
worth more than it really is.
Quote: He seems to have based his appraisal purely on the last known sale price of homes of similar age and size, and completely disregarded the $175k in improvements that I'd made to my home.
He should be using homes of similar age and size. It sound like you have over improved your home for the neighborhood.
Quote: We don't know what the circumstances and conditions of that sale were. Foreclosure, short sale? Judging a home's value by its age and dimensions is equally flawed as we don't know whether that home has been updated in the last 50 years, whether it's completely rotting inside or what.
Fact: appraiser would not use a foreclosure or a short sale as that would not be a arm' length transaction and would not be used. The appraiser does know if the comparables have been updated as MLS photos shows interior of the comparables and notes states this.
Sorry but it is what it is.
How can I lower auto loan interest rate without refinancing?
It shows that the minimum payoff amount in order to refinance a car is $7500 in California. Currently we owe $6800 some odd dollars on the car. We have 34 months left but the APR is at 19% because at the time we got it a little over 2 years ago, our credit was pretty bad. Our credit has recently improved. We don't qualify for auto refinancing apparently even though we've paid on time every month for over 2 years. The only reason we can't apply is because we owe too little!
Is there a way we can work around this? Should we ask our current auto lender for a lower interest rate or should we refinance, saying we owe $7500, and then get back the remainder? I don't know how this works.
Thanks
Also, the car is worth more than we owe. Just wanted to state that. We just want to get the interest rate lowered and hopefully cut down the monthly payment.
Our payoff amount to our lender is $6800 but we cannot refinance our car because the minimum to refinance is $7500. We looked everywhere and it says you have to owe at least $7500 in order for them to do a loan for you. We do not owe enough money to our lender.
Auto finance is what I do for a living and if everything is as you say the answer is to refinance $7,500.00 for 30-months at a lower rate and have them cut you a check back for $700.00.
We do this all the time at my dealership.
Additional details.
I don't know who your lender is but every lender I have bases the amount they will loan on the value of the vehicle not the payoff and since you say yours is worth more then the payoff this should not be a problem.
If this is actually what your encountering you need to find another lender.
Is it possible to refinance 1st & 2nd mortgages for a brand new house immediately after I close?
I am required to use my builder's mortgage company b/c they are giving me incentives but the rates are 0.5% higher than other lendes on both the 1st and 2nd mortgages.
I am wondering if I would be able to refinance both mortgages immediately after I close? What do I need to consider? What questions do I need to ask?
Sale Price: $960k
New House in California
Interest Rates for 1st/2nd mortgages: 6.75%/8.675%
Excellent FICO scores - high 700s to low 800s
6.75% is average for 30 years fix loan.
8.675 is high of course, but you don't have down payment, lender wants high rates to compensate.
It is hard to find another lender to give you better rate.
I would stay away from adjustable loans or interests-only, because housing market continues to slump. Adjustable loan is "toxic", which means if rates go up while housing price stays, you will in bad spot.
As for interests-only, mortgage payment consists of two parts: interests and principal. Interests are like rent, which doesn't add to the equity to your house. It simply disappear as your pay it. If you want to use interests only loans, might as well rent, especially during market downturn, because housing price won't appreciate.
Would you consider delaying your plan? As housing market continues to slump, it might save you 10% simply by waiting for a few months. Another way to look at it, you can increase profit by 10% when you are ready to sell it.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/08/real_estate/caught_in_the_bubble/index.htm?postversion=2006090814
http://money.cnn.com/2006/09/05/real_estate/Ofheo_home_prices/index.htm?postversion=2006090514
If you want to go ahead with your plan, threaten to back out, they probably will give you incentives without asking you to use their lender.
Good luck!
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I'm looking to refinance my home while the rates are still low but i cant find quotes, only sites that want my
I can only find sites that want me to give them my information, and then they will give me a list of lenders in my area, Its frusterating because i would love to get the list of lenders in my area but i dont want to give out any personal information about myself to anyone besides the lender. And the few big lenders in my area wont work with me because of my fair to bad credit. I get enough spam to know not to give out my info to just anyone. If anyone has any info on lenders in california or info on refinancing, purchasing a home, or home improvement please reply asap. Thank you!
5.25% is what I saw just yesterday.. Heck just call your local bank, or credit union... Don't go to a broker till you have a little info in hand. The call is free.
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